It's like Huligan is saying.. Warriors (especially paladins who does not have blind rush) does not even compare to anything in pvp when the warrior have such a hard time catching up and actually hitting the mage/ranger.. so if you want a formula that's pretty darn accurate according to how fight usually be.

Range "Counter" Mage
Mage "Counter" ranger/warrior
Ranger "weak against" warrior
warrior (AY BRO LEMME CATCH UP AND HIT YOU ONE TIME FOR 300 LIKE 2 TIMES IN 2 MIN)

Thanks God warrior have a weakness. They can hardly catch up with the target in pvp. But everyone has weaknesses. Ranger don't have to catch up, but they are fragile to every vocation, warlock has the lowest blocking abilities (HP POOL) and once NMR will be lowered - mages will be fragile to every class as well with the lowest HP POOL.

Mages should be the class thats most fragile to every class? They got sick damage out in 1 second and most damage whatever class they attack. I think this change is really good for the game, first NMR going up fast thats good because otherwise low level mages would die to easy and then it goes to a more flat increase when it starts getting OP. Its still super worth taking level for mages by increase damage / HP pool and more? I can be wrong but Im 100% sure this change is good, like really good. Now mages wont be both best damage and survival class in pvp.

I didn't argue that it's a good change. The idea is okay, but we are trying to find whats the best number. And in test server it was changed by too much. It's like imagine mages had 80% buff. We would see its OP. So we wouldnt take it off right, we wouldnt cap it 10%? we would set it somewhere where it feels okay. So that's why I spent 5hours yesterday and more time before. To contribute and help the staff tweaking formulas.

bla bla bla bla bla crybaltas

I really think they close too what it should be right now on test server, ofcourse high level mages will disagree but thats what i think. But I respect your work to 100% also said that you would be a good staff member, Zezenia crew really need someone like you in their team.

Its sad but nothing Will help this game

There is no point in arguing anymore about this. all you see is from a mage PoV.
the only thing you want is mages to be tanky, high burst and be op.
Clearly cuz you play a mage and you dont want be a balanced class.
That's okay, gl bro

mimimimimim cry baltas dancore ht savage mimimmiimim cry is free hope they change this mr like it should be im mage and dont complain about it always crying they want to be so tanky tanking 15 ppl combo ur LMOA BRO

Ye. I think of mage PoV. Maybe its correct. This thread is about mage vs mage damage. Nothing to do against warrior or ranger