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Pharos
Level 950
Warrior
31st October 2018 14:03:47 (Last edited 31st October 2018 14:20:02)

1. Due to deathlosses and other reasons , limiting skills to 1x is also unfair . The most reasonable number if you compare to pharos(which was fair training 2x ) the most fair number would be 1.7x training but anything inbetween 1.5-2x exp is fair for warriors and rangers ! ! !
The Warlockk
Player

Elysium
Level 190
Mage
31st October 2018 15:02:49

Quoting Mackie:
1. Due to deathlosses and other reasons , limiting skills to 1x is also unfair . The most reasonable number if you compare to pharos(which was fair training 2x ) the most fair number would be 1.7x training but anything inbetween 1.5-2x exp is fair for warriors and rangers ! ! !

Deathloss isnt a valid argument, Cream, you know it.

Also, Pharos isnt a comparative parameter to anything, its an OT with level 500s.

I believe skills should be 1.5x, no more and no less.
2x skills would be wayy too much of an advantage for warriors and rangrrs in the long run, and 1x too much of a disadvsntage in the beginning, compared to how fast mages level up
Senta Amanda
Player

Pharos
Level 652
Mage
31st October 2018 15:54:42

i agree with 2x skill, all know in pvp server only have mage because rangers dont have power, i can bloke 10 ranger skill 100+ ... in one fight 2 mage lvl 100 x 4 ranger lvl 100 is more easy 2 mages win them 4 ranger... please 2x skill !
The Warlockk
Player

Elysium
Level 190
Mage
31st October 2018 16:20:23 (Last edited 31st October 2018 16:21:53)

Quoting Archerxs:
i agree with 2x skill, all know in pvp server only have mage because rangers dont have power, i can bloke 10 ranger skill 100+ ... in one fight 2 mage lvl 100 x 4 ranger lvl 100 is more easy 2 mages win them 4 ranger... please 2x skill !

Yes, but you are level 410... The new Server os 2x, itsnt suíted for extremely High levels!

I think the best solution is to CHANGE THE DAMAGE FORMULA of rangers and warriors, making levels have impact on he damage dealt.

It is very unfair to have only skills as damage factor. A level 200 shouldnt deal the same damage of a level 50, even though they have same skills. Rangers and warriors should be somewhat rewarded for taking levels, juat as magea are.

No for 2x skillrate, yes for new damage formula!

I strongly believe that 1x skill rate without a damage formula revamp ia gonna be harmful for the new server!
Anarcho Capitalist
Player

Pharos
Level 239
Warrior
31st October 2018 16:22:40

gm told me this.. [12:16:10] GM Eden: 2x - 60/65 - 1.75 - 100 after 100 1.5x

for skill rates.

Ryan~
The Warlockk
Player

Elysium
Level 190
Mage
31st October 2018 16:23:32

Quoting Anarcho Capitalist:
gm told me this.. [12:16:10] GM Eden: 2x - 60/65 - 1.75 - 100 after 100 1.5x

for skill rates.

Ryan~

If thats veridic, looks perfect!
Pogmage
Player

Pharos
Level 19
Mage
31st October 2018 16:38:15

Quoting The Warlockk:
Quoting Anarcho Capitalist:
gm told me this.. [12:16:10] GM Eden: 2x - 60/65 - 1.75 - 100 after 100 1.5x

for skill rates.

Ryan~

If thats veridic, looks perfect!

would be awesome. can staff confirm ?
Senta Amanda
Player

Pharos
Level 652
Mage
31st October 2018 17:09:24

Quoting Anarcho Capitalist:
gm told me this.. [12:16:10] GM Eden: 2x - 60/65 - 1.75 - 100 after 100 1.5x

for skill rates.

Ryan~

this is true GM? and why no 2x ever?
Doney
Player

Pharos
Level 42
Warrior
31st October 2018 17:32:32 (Last edited 31st October 2018 17:40:08)

Quoting The Warlockk:
Quoting Archerxs:
i agree with 2x skill, all know in pvp server only have mage because rangers dont have power, i can bloke 10 ranger skill 100+ ... in one fight 2 mage lvl 100 x 4 ranger lvl 100 is more easy 2 mages win them 4 ranger... please 2x skill !

Yes, but you are level 410... The new Server os 2x, itsnt suíted for extremely High levels!

I think the best solution is to CHANGE THE DAMAGE FORMULA of rangers and warriors, making levels have impact on he damage dealt.

It is very unfair to have only skills as damage factor. A level 200 shouldnt deal the same damage of a level 50, even though they have same skills. Rangers and warriors should be somewhat rewarded for taking levels, juat as magea are.

No for 2x skillrate, yes for new damage formula!

I strongly believe that 1x skill rate without a damage formula revamp ia gonna be harmful for the new server!

2x is still a high exp rate, which makes almost the same as pharos, in the way zezenia is now, even 1x exp will be fast leveling at lower levels if you know right places to go. Pharos died so fast due to 3x double exp in a year, 2 of them in less than 2 months between eachother, killing fun really fast with spawns you can make 10kk exp per hour with exp pots+boost in team hunt if youre level 300+.

Elysium isnt suited for higher levels and top level lives there.

All you need to do is get a paladin tanky, 2 pyromances, 2 shamans and rangers will be enough to make the max exp in any spawn of the game
EDIT: Most of the cases you dont even need a paladin, for real

I vote for changes in the following spawns before server release:

Boulders
Devil
Sand Terrors
Dracolichs Arnau
Hellish Maguss
Lone Eyes
Might Werebears
Soul Devourers

No need to change exp/life, just put there some stairs instead of being a circle, these spawns are so easy to exp with follow, 2 active rest botters with auto target. Just like was made with Evil Legioneres
Anuel Ft
Player

Pharos
Level 613
Mage
31st October 2018 17:41:24

Quoting The Warlockk:
Quoting Mackie:
1. Due to deathlosses and other reasons , limiting skills to 1x is also unfair . The most reasonable number if you compare to pharos(which was fair training 2x ) the most fair number would be 1.7x training but anything inbetween 1.5-2x exp is fair for warriors and rangers ! ! !

Deathloss isnt a valid argument, Cream, you know it.

Also, Pharos isnt a comparative parameter to anything, its an OT with level 500s.

I believe skills should be 1.5x, no more and no less.
2x skills would be wayy too much of an advantage for warriors and rangrrs in the long run, and 1x too much of a disadvsntage in the beginning, compared to how fast mages level up

You haven't been around that much.
The only rangers that were strong on Pharos were the rangers that came from Platon. Because they've trained for years.
"in the long run" mages will be ALOT stronger than rangers/warriors if you have 1x skills.

My ranger has 124 distance, and i've trained since the start and only stopped training a few months ago.
Meanwhile, there are 400/500lvl mages. 2x Skills is more than fair.