Go back desolation then and remove the shield slam, holy sword and cleave, it will not be necessary for the warriors, because 3 seconds cleave, 6 seconds of shield slam and 20 seconds of holy sword, it doesn't kill even lv 100 =)

+1, back Desolation, increase holu sword AS was before -Also back to 10sec CD, add to multistrike 2% dmg more per talent, increase basic mele damage, old time ago weapon damage was a main damage, spell was just an addiction , when you changed spells now mele dmg ITS jest a joke comparing to my 180 mele and best weapon. Good move was a balance increasing spell damage by increasing mele skill but i think this Still need better balance cuz 1 lvl comparing 1 skill point gives almost the same comparing to spells and in my opinion skill point should give really bigger diifference in damage. Same AS magic lvl and distance , there Aldo should be a stagnation for example 0-20 -2-3 dmg each, 20-60-3-4dmg, 60-100 -4-5dmg etc etc with OFC better balance for mages AS magic lvl.
One more- now 1 lvl increasing magic damage by Wand , but not increasing mele hits whats point of that? In my opinion 1 lvl should give 0.25 dmg to mele atacks so 100 lvls ITS 25 , so 400 lvl Mike me got a bonus 100dmg via mele atacks sounds fair

By the way Desolation had a pretty cool sprite. I think cleave should be removed. New cleave damage and cooldown could be transferred to old desolation. If paladins really are "tanky class" sounds fair to give back their 8 sqm spell with a balanced damage.

I agree with you, if you have to change something, change it to balance, not to unbalance, and the classes that are complaining, didn't get any improvement, they just made ours worse. >S

Merrnz gives some arguments, paladins shows frustration of the nerf. I can start to understand why gms doesnt reply in forums, as constructive discussion is very hard with this community.

Paladins are saying sweeping is none sence and its retarded that u gotta use it at lvl 500.
Why not? Lvl 100 paladin using cleave and u have no problem on using it at 700 as theres nothing new to use?
That swipe still does a lot of dmg compared to single target spells other classes using.

I still have adv soul fire on my hotkeys as i dont have any other aoe spell which shoots around me and i cannot spam cross of anhilation spell cuz its 3sec. Also i gotta target it.
I remember warlocks asked it to be on target but i didnt think its a good idea even if it benefits my voc.

If everyone would think about the balance instead of threatening game owners to quit if their class gets worsened, then we would reach a lot better balance.

all i wanted to say is: ranger, shaman and warlocks need some improvement in damage. the game must be atractive. thers no need to cut ppl