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Deadpool
Player

Pharos
Level 472
Ranger
25th October 2018 11:10:10 (Last edited 25th October 2018 23:17:32)

Zaza
Elder Sage

Elysium
Level 275
Mage
25th October 2018 11:54:04 (Last edited 25th October 2018 12:05:08)

I don't understand why black skull can be paid off for any price. It just makes no sense to me. You take a black skull you should have to serve your PvP "banishment" time. THAT is how you stop Power Abuse.

Black Skull people should still be able to kill others - just with increasing penalties. (Maybe the base level of kills to take blackskull can be raised 1-2)

Such as..... 3 Additional kills after blackskull = -30% reduced PvP Damage and 100% to drop 2 items.
5 Additional kills after blackskull = -50% PvP damage and 100% to drop 3 items.

Every kill after taking blackskull resets the 14 day removal timer.

Paying off skulls just allows more PA and a dominant guild to control everything. Make them take blackskull if they want to dominate, at least it will give the other players a chance sometimes.

Oh and REMOVE THE ABILITY TO MC!!!!
Old Logan
Player

Pharos
Level 134
Warrior
25th October 2018 11:56:02

Quoting Deadpool:

Why not disable attacking for 3 seconds on a player who freshly logs in. This will take care of this game weakness.



Agree 100%!
Casted
Player

Pharos
Level 416
Mage
25th October 2018 12:05:27 (Last edited 25th October 2018 12:10:33)

Quoting GM Quillon:
3 guys above, do you guys have better anti power abusing idea? Feel free to share it with us. Or you would support power abusing? Hmmm.

-- Quillon


I support any type of PvP and that's why it's a PvP server.
If you want to play PvP that is the consequence, trying to remove that will only dilute PVP to the point of it being NON-PvP.

I agree with Zaza, make it so you cannot pay black skull off at all. (I know you wouldn't do this because of the income loss though)
Change the way black skull works, if you have a black skull you lose all items, but removed the extra EXP loss.
This way you would be at a massive disadvantage for having a black skull as it would not be worth using the resistance equipment which works in PvP meaning they have less defence and they're a target.
(Basically Tibias red skull but worse due to the power of items on Zezenia)
Deadpool
Player

Pharos
Level 472
Ranger
25th October 2018 12:12:31 (Last edited 25th October 2018 23:17:38)

Zaza
Elder Sage

Elysium
Level 275
Mage
25th October 2018 12:13:55 (Last edited 25th October 2018 12:15:54)

Here is a very simplistic example of why payment of p-cards to remove blackskull Financially is not quite the best idea either.

Example:
Deadpool is Me & my best friends enemy. Deadpool is rich and 50 levels higher than us.

Deadpool Kills us anytime he can. Deadpool pays off blackskull anyime needed.

Me and my friend quit. We will never buy pcards or increase the community again.

OR with an increasing blackskull penalty. Every few deaths me and friend have a chance (around 14 days) to play in relative peace and try to catch his level to kill HIM
Deadpool
Player

Pharos
Level 472
Ranger
25th October 2018 12:17:52 (Last edited 25th October 2018 23:17:42)

Zaza
Elder Sage

Elysium
Level 275
Mage
25th October 2018 12:19:31 (Last edited 25th October 2018 12:21:54)

Just an example :-) and by no means does it cover the true PvP world and whole server. But a simple example to show how payment of skull removal can cause players to quit which can have exponential consequences on total number of players and p-card bought in the long term.

Maybe in my example someone hired you.
Zaza
Elder Sage

Elysium
Level 275
Mage
25th October 2018 12:20:41

Quoting Deadpool:


P.S. If you took away locates, might help mitigate a few things.


They already said no 100% to that it seems. So we must try from another angle!
Casted
Player

Pharos
Level 416
Mage
25th October 2018 12:21:51

Quoting Zaza:
Here is a very simplistic example of why payment of p-cards to remove blackskull Financially is not quite the best idea either.

Example:
Deadpool is Me & my best friends enemy. Deadpool is rich and 50 levels higher than us.

Deadpool Kills us anytime he can. Deadpool pays off blackskull anyime needed.

Me and my friend quit. We will never buy pcards or increase the community again.

OR with an increasing blackskull penalty. Every few deaths me and friend have a chance (around 14 days) to play in relative peace and try to catch his level to kill HIM


Having a massively increased black skull price like currently suggested would just make people like Deadpool(just an example) not even start playing.
The people who are wanting to start the new PVP server are starting for (I know this might sound strange) PVP, taking the chance to PvP away on a PvP server makes close to zero sense.
Cause this doesn't only effect power abuse but the entire PVP part of the game.

I.E when I played in Pharos some battles I took 2 black skulls in one battle, that would mean for me to have a battle I would have to be willing to pay close to 20 euros.

PS: I won't be playing the new server, but I do know the effect this change will have.
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